Sunday, December 21, 2008

Out Spotlight LIV

Today's Out Spotlight is Steven Greenberg the first openly gay Orthodox Rabbi in the United States and a founder and educational advisor to the Jerusalem Open House, a LGBT community center in Jerusalem that advances the cause of social tolerance.


Rabbi Greenberg's aim is to "mark a path" by which a person of faith can be committed to God and tradition and still be a self-evincing gay person. Even the most traditional of communities can make such reconciliations, he said.

And while most other Orthodox Rabbis can ignore Rabbi Greenberg, they cannot "expel" him from Orthodoxy the way many Protestant churches do with LGBT members and clergy. Rabbi Greenberg who reminds everyone of fact that every Orthodox rabbi knows very well...as does every Jew, Orthodox or otherwise. The Bible is an interpretive relationship between each individual man and his God.

And while many Orthodox Rabbis would disagree with Greenberg's interpretation of the Bible, all would agree with his right to his understanding as an understanding equal to their own. The majority religious Jews are followers of the Reform movement and then the Conservative movement and both communities now widely recognize openly gay clergy and same sex marriage.

Rabbi Greenberg is a Senior Teaching Fellow at CLAL The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership. He was featured in the acclaimed 2001 film Trembling Before G-d, about Orthodox gay Jews, and has appeared in over 500 post-screening community dialogues throughout the world. He serves as the educational coordinator for the film’s outreach project, and arranged for screenings in Israel’s religious school system, reaching over 2,000 principals, educators and school counselors. A popular speaker on issues of faith, sexuality, and tradition, he has helped organize the first Orthodox Mental Health Conference on homosexuality, and has worked with numerous families in reconciliation.

Rabbi Greenberg is the winner of the Koret Book Award for Philosophy and Thought, for his groundbreaking book Wrestling with God & Men: Homosexuality in the Jewish Tradition (University of Wisconsin Press, 2004), which explores homosexuality and Jewish tradition. In the book, Rabbi Greenberg presents readers with surprising biblical interpretations of the creation story, the love of David and Jonathan, the destruction of Sodom, occasions of same-sex love in Talmudic narratives, medieval Jewish poetry and prose, and traditional Jewish case law literature and the condemnatory verses of Leviticus. The Koret awards are the most prestigious in Jewish prose. The book was also selected as a finalist for the Lambda Literary Awards.

In Wrestling with God he writes about his meeting with Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashuv :

...beset with an inceased awareness of my attraction to a fellow yeshiva student, I visited a sage, Rav Yosef Shalom Eliashuv [sic], who lives in one of the most secluded ultra-Orthodox communities in Jerusalem. He was in poor health but still taking visitors... Speaking in Hebrew, I told him what, at the time, I felt was the truth. "Master, I am attracted to both men and women. What shall I do?" He responded, "My dear one, my friend, you have twice the power of love. Use it carefully." I was stunned. I sat in silence for a moment, waiting for more. "Is that all?" I asked. He smiled and said, "That is all. There is nothing more to say."


Greenberg noted that Rabbi Eliashiv's comment was not meant to endorse homosexuality, nor to imply that there is no conflict between homosexuality and Orthodox Judaism. The point of the story, and the significance of Rabbi Eliashiv's response, is that it is possible for religious Jews to have compassion and empathy for Jews struggling to remain devout and who have homosexual urges.

Trembling Before G-d

Jersusalem Open House

Wrestling with God & Men

Happy Hanukkah


Happy Winter Solstice


OMG Season of Sharing

Jewish National Fund

Founded in 1926, the Jewish National Fund (JNF) America has been a vital part of Zionist history, achieving its goal of purchasing the land that would become the State of Israel, helping to develop that land into a thriving nation, and protecting Israel's environment. Over the past century, JNF has planted over 240 million trees, built over 180 dams and reservoirs, developed over 250,000 acres of land, created more than 1,000 parks throughout Israel and educated students around the world about Israel and the environment. As a global environmental leader focusing on Israel, JNF is committed to improving the quality of life for all who live in the Middle East.

141 comments:

Special K said...

Hjulia - thanks for the new pictures of Austin. Incredible find. Interesting we haven't heard anything about it.

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Jersey Tom said...
Great Out Spotlight today Spesh. Steven Greenberg is a hero.

Happy Hanukkah to everyone.

I am so saddened to hear reese was crying at Jake's birthday dinner.. She must be devastated at the lack of privacy at such a private occasion. Those horrible papparazzi ruined a romantic evening for her and her gay boyfriend:-)

Anonymous said...

The Bible is an interpretive relationship between each individual man and his God.

What a beautiful, beautiful post today. This encompasses my beliefs as well. Mine are a little bit of every religion on the planet, including pre-Chrisian and indigenous people's beliefs, because I see different religions as different cultures' interpretations of the same things, and all should thrive. And I don't like one religion dominating others, and claiming to be the one true belief, because I don't think that's true. I cannot wait to get my hands on this book to read, Rabbi Greenberg's Wrestling with Gods and Men. Religion, mythology and people's beliefs have been a favorite subject of mine since I was a child. All people are the beautiful creations of a God, no matter their sexuality, race or beliefs IMO, and no religious text would advocate taking rights away, nor treating God's beautiful gift of the love between any two human beings as wrong.

Thanks for today's Enya song as well - being a little Celtic, I love Celtic lore and beliefs, especially the reverence for the natural world, and she and her sister Moira are two of my favorite "priestesses".

About Jake and Reese - gotta say now that I think there's something to more to it. Perhaps he and Austin were a couple at one time, perhaps not, but this has gone on way too long now and they spend way too much time together for there not to be IMO. Also, I would not bring my children after a divorce to become close to another man unless it was serious. That said, the possibility exists that it could all be fake, but hiding a relationship for personal gain or homophobia is just shameful and I really, really cannot believe that Jake would do that. Keeping a relationship private until he's ready to come out, yes; but not a full-blown fauxmance. Of course I don't know, I can't possibly know what's really going on. I think Jake looks a bit tired possibily because of hard work, travel and jet lag, but basically he looks as handsome as ever. I don't see anything dire.

I don't think Jake and Reese will marry right away, but eventually yes. Having been where she is, I was not wanting to rush into a another marriage right away, I can tell you. He will care for her enough to wait until she's ready. We'll have to see what happens. I've made some very good friends here and I'll be sticking around to see what happens.

Spesh, how much snow did you get? We got 14 inches down here. Happy Winter Solstice! :)

Happy belated birthday wishes to Jake as well. I will always be a fan because his and Heath's performances in Brokeback Mountain touched me like very few others ever have. All the best to you Jake, for the coming year and always. :*

Sorry for writin' a book this morning, but today's post is wonderful. Thanks again Spesh & Wicked, for your creativity, ever-optimism and all around goodness. :*

destiny said...

Man, I just had a very long post zapped because of the new post.

I agree with Tom, PG and Horseman's comments from last night. I don't think Jake will come out anytime in the next few years, but don't know about never. People can change, but the odds are not good.

They msy be doing a better job of faking, but ;ake still looks "dead" to me; no real emotion, no glow, an undercurrent of shame and controlling what he shows. Maybe a few fan girls can be fooled, but all the things that attracted most fans are gone. I don't see how Jake is going to become the big star he seems to want to be while turning into a zombie.

Thanks Hjulia for all the finds.- hope Austin continues to be himself as much as he can, so far he continues to have that glow and charisma.

Anonymous said...

About Jake and Reese - gotta say now that I think there's something to more to it.

You obviously didn't see X17 video.
Reese "cries" on Jake's shoulder but Jake isn't impressed with her performance. In fact he's bored.

Anonymous said...

My dear one, my friend, you have twice the power of love.

I have always believed this as well, about those who are attracted to and love both men and women.

Happy, happy Hanukkah to all of our Jewish friends as well. :*

Anonymous said...

Keeping a relationship private until he's ready to come out, yes; but not a full-blown fauxmance.

Reese needs a full-blown fauxmance. Reese pulls the strings here.

Anonymous said...

No, I haven't seen that video yet. Let me take a look.

Anonymous said...

"Reese needs a full-blown fauxmance. Reese pulls the strings here."

But why taking the risk to ruin it's own image hooking up with a supposed gay man!
Not really smart IMO even for money and to be seen more "desirable"

destiny said...

Interesting post today. One thing I wonder is if he would still be oethodox if he was in the U.S. Instead of Israel. They do have the other types of judiasm in Israel.

Happy Hanukah to everyone who celebrates the festival of lights.

Anonymous said...

But why taking the risk to ruin it's own image hooking up with a supposed gay man!

Same reason why Reese faked a family with Ryan for her Oscars PR.
When was the last time when some A or B lister was outed?

Anonymous said...

(((LondonTB)))

Florida Tom said...

Northeast your post was awesome today. What I hear from you is that your not really sure of anything anymore when it comes to Jake. I have asked myself all the same questions. It is hard to believe that two people would do what Jake and Reese are doing and not have there be something to it. It is hard to believe that they are not a couple. But I just can't let go of the underlyimg current that Austin is still not in Jakes life. I also have no idea how career driven these two people may be.

But your right whatever happens we will always have Jake and Heath to thank for making Brokeback. Brokeback has opened the doors for many wonderful gay themed movies to be on the silver screen. Ala "Milk" and the upcoming "Taking Woodstock".


Shame on Jake and Reese if they are liars. Good luck to Jake and Reese if they are in love. I will be watching.

Florida Tom said...

((((Rattler)))

Florida Tom said...

Rattler I am really glad to see that you are back. You are certainly an interesting character. I would love to know more about you and who you are. What brought you to WFT and OMG. We started out as friends and then our relationship seemed to turn a little sour. Hopefully you will spend more time with us and tell us more about yourself. I for one would really love to know.

prairiegirl said...

Good morning, everyone!! Wow, we've climbed all the way up to 6 degrees - oops , now 7. Man, it is just unbelievably cold. I'm so thankful my poor lil' car started. It's been very good to me, tho.

Excellent writing and background work on this Rabbi Greenburg, Special. Now he truly is out there, hands on. And he's getting to the grass roots of it all, out in the spiritual depths of all of us, where the fear/lack of understanding resides. I say us because I used to be one of the rigid ones, as some of you know. Reconciliation work? That's fantastic. How many families & friendships has he reconciled, I wonder. That in itself is such wonderful work. He's a peacemaker in the truest sense and where do you think that kind of love & caring comes from? Why, the same God that other homophobic people worship. That was my last stumbling block that I didn't get through my head. How could I have been so ignorant.

Oh well! That's in the past and I don't wish to look back on that.

I have alot to say, so I hope I don't wear out my welcome this morning. You know the drill, if it gets too much, just scrolllll dowwwwn... lol.

Man, I just had a very long post zapped because of the new post.

Now, Destiny! Come on, who was the one who taught me how to save my comments, lol. I feel your pain, D.

Northeast, are you someone I haven't met yet? For a minute, I thought you were Eastcoast when you first started talking, but then I had to look twice at your name. And your name is sort of like netb (?) (What is with that, netb? LOLL! I can't keep up with your name changes). But you spell yours out. You eastcoasters get me kind of confused trying to keep you all straight, lol. Anyway, I'm a nosy type, so I have to ask.

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destiny said...

I think Austin is still in Jake's life. I will never understand why he puts up with all this though.living like this is just not something I can comprehend.

Anonymous said...

^^PG, no problem at all - yes, I'm the poster formerly known as NETB - waaaaaay back when I was NortheastTB, I shortened it to NETB, so I'm going to use Northeast. Sorry about all the name changes! I'm gonna stick with this one for now. Eastcoastfan is a different person, also been following the TT saga for a long while too, I beleve. :)

Happy belated birthday to Rattler too! :*

Special K said...

Hey NE -

It's snowing again!!! Yeah we have about the same you about 12-13 inches. God bless my landlord and their snowblower.

I have to go back out in this and celebrate an early family Christmas since we are flying out so early Christmas morning.

Anonymous said...

You obviously didn't see X17 video.

I saw the x17 video and it's too dark to tell what's going on. Maybe others can see it more clearly, but I cannot. However, the blurb on x17 suggests she was crying...

December 19, 2008: Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have a intimate romantic dinner for Jake's 28th birthday at Georgio Baldi restaurant in Santa Monica. There's lots of talking, laughing and even some crying. It was a perfect night...

Wicked said...

This is one of my favorite Spotlights ever! :)

Florida Tom said...

I didnt know that Rattlers birthday was the same day as Jakes. Cool!. Happy belated birthday Rattler. Many more.

prairiegirl said...

I forgot to mention, too, that I love that picture of the Menorah and of the winter solstice. How beautiful. I love December 21st!!!! Know why? Because Dec. 21 is the shortest day of the year. After that, the daylight hours start to get longer and that always has meant to me that I don't have to rush out of work to go get my walk in before it gets dark.

I wanted to agree with several comments since early early this morning.

I also wanted to make just a couple more comments about those b-day dinner pictures. When you look at all 300+ of them in IHJ, lol, there are more than several where Jake looks restless. He looks just like Deacon did in those set of pics where Reese is kneeling down talking to Deacon about something and Deacon was rather distressed about something. Jake looks the exact same way, arms up over his head almost like he's claustrophobic and wants to run. Now, no, he's into the conversation in several of the pictures, but there're way too many others there where he is mirroring that boy's very same body movements.

I'm like some of the others. I'm going to try & restrain from checking out all these pictures, especially now that we're going to be in for a boatload now. I don't know for whose benefit they are. I look at these dinner pics as their reaching Mt. Everest. They really put it out there, no going back, and they are indeed "a couple". They can't deny it now in the press. They can't ever say they're just friends.

What I'd like to know is how they expect us to believe or understand why on earth he cannot be photo'd with any member of his family. How about even Jamie Lee Curtis, for gosh sakes. Even if he stopped off in NYC to say hi to the family on his way in, why no pap shots there like there used to be. You mean to tell me they would've stayed holed up inside the house the whole time?

You cannot tell me that a person can go 25 years of being in their family, even in adult years going for walks together, brunch, dogwalking, etc etc, and not only that, but be in the company of other "buds", in pick up games, eating, attending sporting events (LoL), etc, and all of a sudden, she comes along and for a year, year 1/2, he is not allowed to be seen in the company of any of them. Save the time he was with his mom at that film screening and the ice cream eating pic. I'm trying to think of any others.
Come on. That's so controlling.

prairiegirl said...

Northeast, blogger formerly known as netb (lol):


:**(

I guess it's to be expected to lose quite a few now. They did a real snowjob this time. But to lose you makes me so very sad. You're my late night buddy. I have tears in my eyes, true.

I'm going to take a break and do some picking up around here. My apartment is just trashed.

Anonymous said...

PG,

Northeast isn't going anywhere.

Anonymous said...

You still have me, PG, sceptical as ever :) :)

Special K said...

I have my butt settled into the deck chair my rose colored glasses on a drink in my hand and still on this crazy cruise. You can always come sit by me. : )

Anonymous said...

Ha ha, Spesh - I will wear dark glasses but join you in a drink. I know too much about lying.

I want to endorse hopeful's violent impulse on the previous thread, too, wrt the face-covering.

Anonymous said...

What I hear from you is that your not really sure of anything anymore when it comes to Jake.

Hi Tom,and thanks! :* I didn't see your post earlier! Yes, that's exactly what I mean. I also agree with Wicked and PG in that whether real or not, they are a couple now, and it's what they must want. But the possibility does exist that J&A are still together, so I'm gonna wait and see. I agree, shame on Jake and Reese if the whole thing is all for public consumption and careers, but Brokeback is a movie I will never, ever forget, so I'm gonna give Jake a chance. I've got some vacation coming up, so I'm planning to see Milk. I'm mostly all caught up with holiday stuff, except for some baking, and that will be relaxing. My little bundle of joy niece was born on Christmas Eve day, and she turns 18this year. :)

I've been enjoying TDK immensely too, Heath is just so good in it. Beautiful, really. I love the crazy/rational way he describes to others how he got his scars. Edgy, jumpy, and when he says Why So Serious?, and Let's Put A Smile on That Face!, it sneaks up on you, grabs you and stops you cold. Just inspired. I'm hoping he'll win all kinds of awards for this role, because he really deserves it.

Spesh, have a wonderful holiday with your family. :*

Anonymous said...

PG, I'm not going anywhere! I'm just sort of a Toothy agnostic now, that's all. I'll still be a nightowl buddy on occasion, still on the cruise too, Spesh. :*

Anonymous said...

I also agree with Wicked and PG in that whether real or not, they are a couple now, and it's what they must want.

I'm sure Reeke wanted to be seen as a couple from the very start - Rome photo shoot.

prairiegirl said...

Yea, London, thank you! Good morning to you - well, actually, good afternoon to you. This is a pretty rough patch, isn't it? Our roughest yet. Who would've thought? I remember when I first found this site earlier this year, everyone was taking a poll to see how long this Reeke business would last and there were guesses to the spring, heck maybe even summer. And look now. And it seems to me PR is starting to accomplish what they wanted. They're bound & determined to crush his BBM fanbase and I think these sites in particular, OMG and WFT2 because small as they are, there is no doubt in my mind that they check these sites out and have got to be a thorn in their side. Like Special says, a pebble in their shoe that they just cannot shake. They accomplish in breaking all of it up and they think they're scot free. I'm glad you're still skeptical, london. I admit when I first took a look at those first released dinner pics, I was convinced myself. But then I had to think over everything in the his past and what we know. And I then looked at all 300+ of the other pictures, and I am back at my skeptical/totally unconvinced self again.

I hope so I know she's not going anywhere because she said. But I was speaking in a "spiritual" sense. A common trait/bond sense. I get attached very easily and I'm rather overemotional, as many can tell. Part of my anxiety problem showing through in that sense.

And I'm pulling up my chaise lounge and, clank clank, ow, dangit, recline you silly chair I'm settling on the sunny side with ol' Special and everyone else. I'll have a Diet Citrus Tea and I'll face the sun without the Foster Grants. Unlike Jake, I don't intend to live behind dark, pimpcar tinted windows. Got my favorite BBM fanfiction in my lap, Ipod handy, and hmm, maybe some Cheez Its (lol!!). I'm set.

Ready for Act III, you two. Better hop to it. You know it won't be long. They seem to need the paps like an intravenous feed.

Anonymous said...

PG sweetheart, I assure you I have a bond with all my friends here, that goes beyond what originally brought us together, J&A. I can't give it up entirely, I'll be around for all the rest. It does seem a little convenient, the latest pics, but they are lovely, I have to say. I really hope that their handlers don't want to crush the BBM fanbase, it's probably Jake's most sincere and meaningful one. That's what brought me to his fanbase. Nothing will crush that for me.

Anonymous said...

It does seem a little convenient, the latest pics, but they are lovely, I have to say.

I would say just good. Jake didn't manage to hide boredom and disinterest.

prairiegirl said...

Now before I resume my picking up around my humble abode, I need to do a call out. Well, two callouts actually.

tr, I really would like to hear your take on some of this. Can you tell me something? How cold Reese can be to use her children like this. Can she really use her children like this? Can she actually let them get used to Jake being around in their lives and if and when they do part ways, to have them understand the whys or whats. I would say at this stage in the game, I agree with netb. If there's one thing that is kind of bothering me, it would be this Christmas pagaent thing and now the continued, pressing issue of him being photo'd with her kids. Not that they act comfortable around him. They don't. They don't get anywhere near him for the most part. But still. He's clearly a part of their lives now. How could a woman do that to her kids, include them in a fauxmance. Because that's what she's doing now. Or do you think I'm wrong in my thinking? I'd really like to hear from you if you have a minute.

Second callout is to our friend, Chris. Chris, are you okay? You're not under the weather, are you? I can't believe you're this quiet, lol. You always have something to say. Bowled over with work? I'm worried about you, buddy. Gasp you've not crossed over, have you??? Talk to me!! please!
: )

Thanks, NE. Squeeze Big hug to you. I did. I had tears in my eyes. Got 'em again. I need to go do some leaning. This is getting a little emotional for me.

prairiegirl said...

LOLLL! I need to go do some cleaning! leaning. lol. Missed that type o.

Anonymous said...

Not that they act comfortable around him. They don't. They don't get anywhere near him for the most part. But still. He's clearly a part of their lives now. How could a woman do that to her kids, include them in a fauxmance.

What's wrong with having a friend around the kids?

Special K said...

Reeke - Same Shots Different Day

It's the same kind of stuff.

And did you hear what the paps were yelling at Jake? Culo Jake Culo

Yeah nobody believes its. Paps just doing their job to get the paycheck.

It's been a fauxmance from the beginning and it will always be.

Anonymous said...

They are still adjusting to their parents' separation, and getting used to the new partners in their parents' lives. Adults can understand, but kids may have more trouble with it. Children get attached easily and their trust isn't something that can be taken lightly. If Jake is just a friend and they keep that in perspective, fine, but if the showmance ends and the kids became attached, it just could be additional heartbreak for them - that's my feeling. If behind the scenes, J&R truly are nothing more than friends, fine. I'd want to keep them out of the public eye as much as I could, and away from flashing cameras. Kids can still become attached. But what do I know? I really have no idea what's going on.

Anonymous said...

If Jake is just a friend and they keep that in perspective, fine, but if the showmance ends and the kids became attached, it just could be additional heartbreak for them - that's my feeling.

When showmance ends Jake and Reese can continue to be friends. No heartbreak.

prairiegirl said...

Smiley, there's nothing wrong with the kids having a friend in Jake if he truly is just that, a family friend. But don't tell me that Ava doesn't hear from her girlfriends/fellow classmates that Jake is/supposed to be her mom's boyfriend. I have co workers with kids and I have friends/relatives who are all teachers. I have a little niece & nephew. Kids get attached. Especially if he is perceived by the outside as their mom's boyfriend, possibly "new daddy in the making". There's no way to shield her from that talk no matter how hard you try. Why would you put your kids in the position to get their feelings hurt if it wasn't necessary? No caring normal parent would. They want to shield their kids from that, at least when they are that young. Course, Reese practices the tough love approach, as we've read. Maybe she wants to teach them that life isn't always what it appears to be at an early age.

Anonymous said...

But don't tell me that Ava doesn't hear from her girlfriends/fellow classmates that Jake is/supposed to be her mom's boyfriend.

So what? Ava knows the truth, firsthand.

Stories about her father cheating on her mother must hurt.

prairiegirl said...

culo, what's that mean, Special?

Anonymous said...

culo - Spanish translation for "ass"

culo - ass or buttuocks usally used in a sexual manner (puerto ricans)

prairiegirl said...

Well, I don't doubt that now she is aware of what happened between her mom & dad. But that doesn't mean you want your child to find out at that age. And if that is the case, why would you introduce your children to someone new so soon. Only to maybe get their hearts hurt again? I'm not a parent, but I know enough that no normally loving parent would ever want to do that to their child. They'd rather hurt themselves than have their child hurt.

Lol, are we going to have to agree to disagree, smiley? stop talking to me, i'm trying to clean!!!!

I'm kidding, lol.

Anonymous said...

The paps weren't yelling culo at Jake, it was the chef yelling that at the paps after Jake and Reese left, there is a video on X17online.

The chef and staff are Italian, culo in Italian means "go fuck yourself:, or "get lost" or "ass".

The staff also threw eggs at the paps, that's why Jake was laughing and Reese was giggling and covering her face.

Anonymous said...

Prairie Girl, I, too, wonder about the "attachement in the making" towards the New Daddy. this is so hard for the kids! as they do become attached.

Reese's stand regarding "bullying in class", that is, it's good for the kids, is, to me, heartless. I immeditately took my kid out of a bullying situation. As it makes them, in turn, bullies.

Maybe that's what she wants to teach her children.

I find this relationship very sad.

Anonymous said...

Wiki/urban dictionary, The chef and staff were caaling the paps asses/jackasses:


Culo, Spanish and Italian for buttocks, the Latino and Italian equivalent of booty
Culo, the Spanish and Italian equivalent of the the American English colloquialism Jack ass
Culo, The singular form of Culi, used as a variation in the phrase FCA, or Full Culi/Culo Action, which is an affectionate phrase used to describe when ones whole palm covers the whole cheek of their beau's buttocks usually in a grabbing or squeezing motion. FCA


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Culo, the Spanish and Italian equivalent of the the American English colloquialism Jack ass
Culo, The singular form of Culi, used as a variation in the phrase FCA, or Full Culi/Culo Action, which is an affectionate phrase used to describe when ones whole palm covers the whole cheek of their beau's buttocks usually in a grabbing or squeezing motion. FCA

Anonymous said...

Ya ever wonder if the reason that Jake hasn't been snapped with his family and friends is that they have no desire to be a part, even a small one, in the showmance?

As to the kids, going by the "official" timeline, Reeke began even before the divorce, and kicked into high gear - complete with marriage, baby and sex on airplane toliets rumors - within a month of it's finalization. Now any child psychologist, or newly divorced parent, can tell you, children of divorce need a period of adjustment, come to grips with all the possible negative emotions and thoughts. They need stability, routine, normal to help them cope. Parents should be attentive and supportive, putting their children's emotional health at the top of the list.

We've had over a year of The Witherspoons doing the exact opposite, even dragging the kids along, away from that normal, away from dad, for the sake of publicity.

Because of this, the manipulative using of her children, not only in photographs, but also print, and Jake's complicity in this pimping, this post is presented by a former, never to patronage either's films again, fan.

Anonymous said...

They need stability, routine, normal to help them cope.

They have it - their nanny is there for them.

prairiegirl said...

lol, smiley, you're heartless! Or actually, I see what you're doing. You're looking at it from Reese's point of view, aren't you? speaking tongue in cheek. aren't you?

man, no one told me I was cussin' when I asked what culo meant. I ought to know that, oughtn't I? Being Hispanic and all? lol, shows how little Spanish I know.

ITA, John B & Scott. That's what I've been thinking. That's the only explanation there can be. Now watch. PR will pay off some distant relative to appear with Reeke at one of their next photo ops. The caption will read "a close, close second cousin" of Jake's. lol. Man, I shouldn't challenge them like that after having scolded some other people about the same thing. Sorry, everybody! If we see Jake's sister or Reese's great-aunt in the next set, blame me.

Anonymous said...

No, I'm heartless! LOL

Seriously, kids are spending a lot of time with Ryan's girlfriend, the one "responsible" for the divorce.

Compared to that spending some time with Reese's gay friend doesn't sound so bad.

Anonymous said...

1. affanculo
An Italian word meaning Fuck It All!

from the Urban Dictionary.

And if you ever had been to Italy you would know that Italians love this word. And yes, Jake and Reese had a helluva time listening to the Chief shouting and throwing eggs. The Chiefs middle finger was also on good display.

And Reeses kids do know exactly what goes on and that Jake is a friend of the family.

While I still think Jake is gay and Reese his good hag, I seriously doubt that he would do that if he had a child and I doubt that Austin would agree with this if the child existed.

And about family: There are pics of a screening of Brothers, which Naomi attended, Reese was there too. They all left separately.
His parents are separated since the beginning of the year, so this might explain why Dad vanished.

Anonymous said...

it seems to me PR is starting to accomplish what they wanted.

Jake is accomplishing what he wanted.

Anonymous said...

Reese included her kids in happy family photo-ops with Ryan when they were already done and he had moved out months ago but she needed the perfect family image to win her Oscar.
What good or responsible mother would put her kids through that especially for something like an award?

Why again would she be reluctant to use her kids to sell her newest image? We're still talking about the same woman here.

It's all about her image not her kids well-being.

Anonymous said...

When I saw the first dinner pics I was a bit concerned, not much, but a bit. But after seeing all the pics and especially the flynet video of the dinner, any nagging doubts were expunged. No love or sexual interest there at all. I am surprised PR wasn't all over having that clip pulled. Must be on holiday and they have not seen it yet. That said, Disney has a huge amount riding on POP, so I expect Reeke to be pushed in the publics face non stop until POP gets released. Maybe R was crying becasue of the horrid reviews her lastest movie performance got. She could also be upset about the Toothy BIs. A leak could damage her as well.

Normally I love any Austin pics but these with his face battered and in a coffin are awful. I know they were for a movie, but I don't like the images. I never watch the tire iron portion in BBM either.

Beautiful post today, just beautiful.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe R was crying because Ted was/IS right about Toothy and his recent signed confidentiality paramours (including Mr. Handjob). Jake has spent a lot of time away from Reese...and I bet there are a lot of cute guys on that set.

Reese and Jake showing why they're solid and in love:
http://www.x17online.com/gallery/view_gall...17&index=33

Anonymous said...

LOL!! Crying was an act, she was fine 2 seconds later, besides you are implying that the outing was geniune, LOL!!!

Love the bit where he "spots" the paps, calls over the staff, this is right before he strokes her hair, oh boy.

The most fun: the staff throwing eggs at the paps, as they speed away laughing!!

Florida Tom said...

Pairiegirl you are a mess. I can picture you stting in your chaise lounge eating cheese its. They are so adddictive.

Poor paps they get the call from the little general and then get harrassed. Doesnt seem fair to me.

Anonymous said...

Poor paps, Jake and Reese call them knowing that place hates paps, pretends to be upset and leave laughing like 2 little kids while the paps get egged and get cursed at in Italian, actually that's pretty funny!!!! Seems fair to me, amybe next time they call them they won't show up!

Florida Tom said...

X17 said I agree. Jake and the general are 2 a holes if this is the case.

Anonymous said...

5:48, I agree with you. They are VERY much in love. Check out this pic--this is the epitome of their love and passion toward each other:
http://www.x17online.com/gallery/view_gall...17&index=33

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Florida Tom said...

Jersey Tom said...
Rattler I can never have respect for you man until you explain what Dany said in her closing comments at WFT. If true your a sad guy if you are not Jake. Here is your chance to be a man. I certainly dont think your Jake.

My last comment on this.

Anonymous said...

Don't know why, but I felt sorry for both of them when I was watching this video. I am a woman, I cry too. Yes, I felt sorry for her, wondering what made this woman cry. I hope no one is dying or something like that. He was listening carefully, and the shoulder thing was sweet. I also felt guilty.:(

Stubborn TB said...

I think the problem is that the paps weren't supposed to film them arriving at the restaurant, and by the looks of it even separately.

Damn those paparazzi! They must have been reading their minds when Reeke decided on that restaurant. Why else would they be already stationed there when Jake and Reese arrived...?

No wonder she was crying. She must get terribly upset when her employees don't do what they were instructed to do.

Anonymous said...

Silence blue eyes! Reese is evil, everything she does is evil, including her tears. And even if they were genuine, they were probably caused by something evil that she did, so she deserved them. Because Reese is evil. Eeeeeeeeeeevil.

Yeah, I'm joking, but I fucking promise you that most of the people here believe that. This blog's hatred for Reese is becoming comical. It's like they have rose colored glasses when looking at Jake and Austin and acid stained glasses whenever they look at Reese.

And is rattler THE rattler? The one who fooled Dany and Special K into believing he was Jake? Oh shit, this is about to get interesting.

Anonymous said...

Reese was crying crocodile tears. She was back to eating 2 seconds later.

prairiegirl said...

Yeah, Tom. Cheez Its. Better yet? Cheez It Party Mix, lol!! Crumbs everywhere. My poor computer keyboard at work. I know it's a real no-no, and corporate IT would have a fit if they could see me turn my keyboard upside down every few days and shake it. Yup, crumbs. I am a mess, lol.

You know, I haven't watched the video on x17; I may. All I need to do though is read your all's reactions and I know what to expect. Yawn ho hum indeed.

You know, though. What is this kind of behavior on Reeke's part - kindegarten? They've regressed back to their original pap behavior at the beginning of the fall/winter of 2007/08? You would think, since they've developed such a longstanding, mature, progressive romantic relationship, that they would be long past this type of newbie behavior and cater after Brangelina, even John & Jen, for gosh sakes, and act with a little bit of decorum. But no, instead they act like they're annoyed. Amused. Fascinated. Unable to look away from the paps. All his time away at Morocco, Paris, & London and he comes back to the same kind of behavior.

And what does that tell you. Speaks louder than words, that's what. Brad & Angelina don't need to acknowledge the paps. They know they're there & they try to carry on anyway. I don't care for them but at least I give them that over Reeke. I've said it once and I'll say it again. Now read the whole sentence before you panic at what I say.
Reeke's ante-upping antics are similar to that of a criminal who commits his crimes repeatedly, sending tip-offs to the authorities, bragging about his/her crime, getting off on the attention of it all. That criminal thrives on it & alot of times, sooner or later, that criminal slips. Because he/she can't leave well enough alone. I've heard Greta Van Sustern say this same thing. And she says the ones who are scot-free & like to talk? Let 'em keep talking because sooner or later, they're going to talk too much or to the wrong person. They just can't help themselves.

Reeke is thriving too much on the attention trying to make their case for themselves. They keep ante-ing it up and they're either going to really slip up or someone's going to talk. And perhaps some people already have if that one BV of Ted's is true, the next to the last one. No, I'm not saying at all Reeke is criminal. I am comparing their method of behavior.

Anonymous said...

Because Reese is evil. Eeeeeeeeeeevil.


She is this tiny, petite, pale girl. I'm pretty sure she isn't as dangerous as people think she is. I think she cries easily, I remember her almost crying at Oprah over her teacher's letter which she carried in her purse (lol) and also her being on the verge of tears when Oprah talked about her parents being proud of her or something. I don't remember now.

Anonymous said...

Brains,

is there anything to admire about Reese?

prairiegirl said...

Brains, that's not funny, I gotta tell you. Can you come up with something a little better than that?

Okay, well, by gosh, if one thing got accomplished this weekend, it was that I finally just got the strand of lights up in my bedroom to match the others. lol. With 4 days left, too.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Reese is innocent and a very nice person. That's what all the people who have actually worked with her say once they're done with promotion.
Oh wait, it's actually the exact opposite...

Anonymous said...

You would think, since they've developed such a longstanding, mature, progressive romantic relationship, that they would be long past this type of newbie behavior and cater after Brangelina, even John & Jen, for gosh sakes, and act with a little bit of decorum. But no, instead they act like they're annoyed. Amused. Fascinated. Unable to look away from the paps.

What the fuck are you talking about? Brangelina do all of the things you just said that Jake and Reese do. Every single one. Same with John and Jen, Ryan and Abbie, Gwen and Gavin, Heidi and Seal, the list goes on and on. You need to take a swim outside of this bloggy goldfish bowl and get some perspective. And you think what I said before wasn't funny? Why, because it's true? Are you saying there isn't a comical level of hate for Reese on this blog? Shit, I think my eyes just rolled right of my head.

Anonymous said...

Tell us Brains, what is there to like about Reese?

Anonymous said...

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

prairiegirl said...

Brains. Clean up your mouth. I'm not going to talk with you if you're going to talk like a sewer. There's no need to be crass. I apologize for my remark which wasn't very polite. I'm sorry. But don't swear at me like that, please. There's no need for it. I won't talk to you that way so don't do it to me.

I apologize if I am wrong about Brangelina. I haven't seen it in all the pictures I've seen of them. I don't see Angelina or Brad putting a jacket or paper bag over their head. I haven't seen Angelina crouching in her vehicle, giggling & covering her face. I will stand corrected if I am wrong. I just haven't seen it. That's the kind of behavior I'm talking about. Of course they play up to the paps. I'm talking about the childish behavior.

Don't worry, Special. I'm done with him/her now.

Save the time he was with his mom at that film screening and the ice cream eating pic. I'm trying to think of any others.

And about family: There are pics of a screening of Brothers, which Naomi attended, Reese was there too. They all left separately.

I see we have troll activity. Like a shark circling the smell of blood, just waiting to pounce. Give it up. It may be a low tide right now, but it's not a washover. You're barking up the wrong tree.

Right - that's the incident I was referring to. That and the ice cream where he's eating with some coworkers or friends are the only ones I can think of so far where he's been papped with someone other than Reese.

prairiegirl said...

Oops, I messed up my comment above, sorry about that! I don't know how that happened, lol. Too much jacking around with copy/pasting and whatnot.

Bedknobs & Broomsticks is on right now, one of my favorite movies!!!

Anonymous said...

Reese's Minister of Defense is very active at the moment. ONTD, Jared, here, even WfT. She seems particularly cranky tonight yelling and calling people pathetic and posting under multiple names agreeing with herself.

That is unintentionally hilarious IMO.

Anonymous said...

Hold up, did I miss something today? I know in Dany's last or close to last post she wrote that she and Special had a falling out because of someone posting pretending to be Jake, but she did not say what it was that was said. What was it???? And Tom, are you insinuating or plain out saying that it was or you think it was Rattler claiming to be Jack. Spill the beans.

Tom I know my skins ruined the second half of their season, but what happended to the eagles man. What is it about them that always make them choke. Just kidding Tom. No Skins in the playoff, oh well.

Anonymous said...

^^ should have been Jake not Jack.

Anonymous said...

You're objecting to swearing? On this blog? Errrr, ok. Well, you said that unlike Brangelina and John and Jen, Jake and Reese they act like they're annoyed, amused fascinated, whatever. I'm just saying that if you actually went out and looked you could find pictures of Brangelina and every other famous couple that have been papped displaying the exact same emotions. That doesn't matter though, cos you'd just find some other way to attack them.

Eastcoastfan, Dany said that a guy called Rattler got her and Special K to believe that he was Jake. It was in her final post before she locked WFT. Dany said she realised he was lying, but Special K still believed him and they fell out.

Special K said...

What happened is the past. WFT started it all and it weren't for Dany and all her work there wouldn't be places like here at OMG and WFT2.

I have made many friends both on WFT and here at OMG. Rattler is a friend who I met like I've met like the rest of you. It has always been a funny coincidence that his birthday is the same day as Jake's. Just like a lot of people Rattler hasn't been around as much - it was nice to see him stop back.

What other people are assuming are their assumptions.

Anonymous said...

Having been away on holiday for a few weeks I've just spent the past couple of rather jet lagged hours catching up on all the Reekery (still depressingly going strong) and more pleasantly all the Austin news and pics.

Really looking forward to the release of the Informers. While away I actually spent some time in Punte del Este where it was filmed so may have been to some of the same restaurants as Austin. I managed to avoid asking the waiters if they remebered a good looking, very tall man with funny ears, maybe I should have done.

Hope you all have a great festive time, I'm going to try to reduce my interest in all this in the new year (but it is just too entertaining) but I'm sure I'll be back. I'm now dying to know what the next Christmas with Reeke phot-op will be so will definately be checking in over the festive season.

Also, I wish my hair could grow as quickly as Reese's. Is she like one of those dolls with a button on their back that you press to make its hair longer. At least Jake and Reese now have one thing to talk about eh.

Anonymous said...

Blimey, just as I was typing that the next photo-op has arrived. Check ihj media, shopping in Brentwood. These teo are on over-drive, makes me think someone is seriously worried that something.

Anonymous said...

Hey K, I'm just repeating what Dany said. If you never thought Rattler was Jake you can just say so and like Tom said, Rattler can stand up like a man and say something too. And shit, more pictures! Evelyn must have read what prairegirl posted and immediately sent Jake and Reese out to get their pictures taken without looking like they cared about the paps/sarcasm

prairiegirl said...

I'm going to get way off topic here for just a second. Anyone can comment on it; tell me how you feel about this "minor" thing. It's really kind of funny, especially today. I just want to know if I'm the only one on this.

You know, I consider myself a demonstrative person, both verbally and physically. But I have never been one to kiss someone on the lips as a greeting or goodbye. The only time I will do it is you know, romantically, ok? I love to hug! I'll shake hands til my arm drops off. But lots of people do the lipkissing meeting someone or with their families even. My sister even kisses my mom & dad on their lips. I can't do it. Never have, don't intend to start. I always turn my cheek and force whoever to kiss it, not my lips. Lol, I can't believe I'm talking about this, but I just have to.

Anyway, there's been this man at my old church, and he & his wife are very, very nice. And he started 1 or 2 years ago, when we have a passing of the peace or when I'm ushering & they arrive, instead of shaking hands, he tries to kiss me. I always dodge it (LOL!) and turn my cheek. Well, today, he like practically was trying to force it on me. I swear. It was like this tug of war, lol, and I somehow managed to keep my head turned. Giminy's it was like warfare there for a second. And this other gentleman that I've also known for quite a few years, he was right behind this man, and I know saw me practically wrestling to keep from kissing this older man on the lips. What in the heck ??? And then during the passing of the peace, he tried again! What is this about? Can't he get the message that I don't want to do that; I don't care if it is just a platonic, affectionate greeting. Am I being way too sensitive on this issue?

lol, you guys laugh all you want. I can take it; I'm kinda laughing myself. But it kind of annoyed me today. I'm going to have to think of something before next month when I see him again. Geesh.

Special K said...

This is old stuff that's being brought up again. What's in the past is the past. All have this has been addressed. Go back and read those posts.

Anonymous said...

They need to get all the photo ops in over the next few days because they are going to disappear to "the farm". Brentwood Country Mart on a weekend is crawling with paparazzi.

Anonymous said...

You aren't being too sensitive the dude is invading your personal space. Next time you see him tell himthat a handshake is all you want from him. Now get back to bashing Jake and Reese.

Anonymous said...

Shit, posted before I saw what Special K said. So what posts are you telling me and Tom to look at?

prairiegirl said...

lol, I'm never tired of bashing Jake & Reese, Brains. I just had to get off topic for a minute. That drove me crazy this morning.

I'm not going to say anything more about the new pics other than it's the same ol', same ol'. There's no question that they've been heavily chewed out by their coach and given a new, improved gameplan. Just like Meg said - they're in overdrive.

Clarity said...

Great spotlight Special. I’m glad to see someone practicing a little tolerance. I try to do that (don't succeed all the time unfortunately). I’m glad you have evolved PG. Good for you. I believe religion is personal for every human being and it’s ultimately between them and God.

I really liked the on-set pics with Austin. He has such a sexy/mysterious look about him. Very cool. Can’t wait to see Prayers for Bobby.

P.S. great music today : )


No PG - I dont think its weird for you to feel strange about someone you dont know kissing you on the mouth.

Anonymous said...

I agree with what Special K wrote at 7:34 pm. There is actually nothing more to say.

Anonymous said...

Reese said in her many interviews for FC that for Christmas she was going to her ranch. Maybe that's why we are being flooded with 6 million pap pics of Reeke every day. The Chin will be out of sight while at the ranch and Reeke wants to make sure the world knows that they spend every second together and that they will be spending every second together at the ranch. Perhaps Jake has other plans for the holidays and Reeke PR feels that if we have overkill, no one will be looking for Jake elsewhere. I still don't get how Jake has decided that his new image should be Mr. Witherspoon, acting like he's been married for 20yrs and step dad of the year, but yet for someone who was constantly seen with his family and friends, suddenly he's in love with Reese and he never sees his family and friends anymore. Doesn't his PR think that that doesn't exactly portray Mr. Family Man if you dump your own family for some one else's?

Anonymous said...

Well you could just say that Dany and Special K never thought you were Jake and you never tried to fool them into believing you were so Dany was lying when she said you did.

Anonymous said...

And you could leave something that is neither your business nor holds any significance to your life.

Or does it?

If so, their are deeper motivations than just being a busybody at work here.

Wicked said...

P.S. great music today : )

The Enya Christmas record is great. She does quite a few songs that are not the standards and are really great to hear.

Dany's last post was discussed here and it's really old news. Brains, I would advise you to go into the archives if you're interested. Everything that has ever been discussed here is archived.

Anonymous said...

their are deeper motivations than just being a busybody at work here.

TROLLERY!

Anonymous said...

If it isn't a big secret can someone just answer the question? It's something me and Tom don't know, so why not just spit it out instead of saying look through the archives. I wouldn't even know where to start!

prairiegirl said...

And you could leave something that is neither your business nor holds any significance to your life.

Or does it?

If so, their are deeper motivations than just being a busybody at work here.


I'm not understanding. Who're you commenting to, hall monitor?

I can't believe my little friend, Popcorn, isn't coming here & gloating along with Brains. Now Popcorn is my friendly troll. I know everyone is probably cyberly flipping me on the back of the head right now, chuckle but I'm just thinking out loud. You have alot to brag on, Popcorn, what with having some conversions this weekend and all. I'd think you'd be happy.

I like this song by Enya, too. I liked her first song, Orinoco Flow. That goes back a ways. But this one is very pretty.

Anonymous said...

Once again, why is what happened months ago on a different blog involving not YOU important?

Anonymous said...

Replying to Brains unusual and slightly disturbing obsession with something that doesn't concern them.

Wicked said...

If it isn't a big secret can someone just answer the question?

Already been discussed ad nauseum. The closing of WFT was difficult for many and I think a lot people don't want to re-visit those days. All comments about it are archived if you want to read about it. I'm sure you can find them if you really want to.

Anonymous said...

PG it's the same troll.

Special K said...

If the Red Sox lose in the pennant race this year I know the reason. And it's not the Curse of the Bambino (as in Babe Ruth) anymore. : )

It's December 21 - and already have tickets for one game at Fenway for every month of the regular season. It's a Festivus Miracle.

GO SOX!!

And to the boys in green. BEAT LA!
Celtics - Lakers Christmas Day

prairiegirl said...

PG it's the same troll.

I can't believe it. Popcorn, are you masquerading as Brains?

Was that you cussing me out?

Tell me the truth.

Anonymous said...

This blog gets 50 posts a day about Jake and Reese and sometimes they talk about drugs and what kind of sex Jake and Austin have and shit and I'm the one with the slightly disturbing obsession? Yeeeeah. I just asked a question, K could have just said no that never happened and that would have been that. Tom asked the same thing so why not say all this shit to Tom to?

Anonymous said...

Brains, hasn't Special K suffered enough indignities and humiliation by believing, long after it was proven NOT to be Jake, for a lifetime? The worst was that bitchslap Dany gave her in her last post when she closed WFT. Man, that had to hurt. Ouch!

Yes, I agree, this blog seems to come alive when there's a Jake and Reese photo. I always found it odd that a blog dedicated to Jake AND Austin gets so little action when Austin is featured. Make you wonder.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree, this blog seems to come alive when there's a Jake and Reese photo. I always found it odd that a blog dedicated to Jake AND Austin gets so little action when Austin is featured. Make you wonder.

Because all the trolls and babblers come over to reassure themselves.

Anonymous said...

Tom asked the same thing so why not say all this shit to Tom to?

Tom did one post about it. You've done 7.

Anonymous said...

Because all the trolls and babblers come over to reassure themselves.

I don't think so. Seems most of the comments are from the regulars here. From what I've seen.

Anonymous said...

Because you're always here trolling using different names and mistaking to and too. Truth is it's Curious how someone so Brainy seems to have Popcorn in their skull. Just Sayin'.

prairiegirl said...

I swear to pete, curious, if I had the power, I'd zap your post. There's no need for you & Brains to come here & be personally insulting. It's one thing to come on and insult OMG'er's beliefs on matters of Jake, Austin, or Reese, or whoever. But it is totally without merit and class to come on and take personal stabs at people. Now Special and Wicked both told you very nicely that there were answers available to your questions in the archive. End of story. That's it. Let it go.

Might I suggest you might find a more favorable & common ground reception on a website that caters to fans of Jake and Reese. Go for it. Have a blast. That is what these blogs are all about; finding other people who you share things & ideas in common with and chatting with them. Making friends. Having some laughs; yes, maybe some arguments, too. But why waste energy on repetitive foul language and personal beration of individuals. That serves no purpose except to expend negative energy. I honestly don't know why you've spent so much time on here trying to share ideas with people who don't share the same feelings.

Best wishes to you & Brains. I hope you have a good week and a nice holiday if you celebrate it. Please. Be on your way. I think your welcome is worn out now.

Anonymous said...

I had a look in the archives and the only thing any answer there was about Rattler was Special K saying that Rattler wasn't Jeff. That's all she said, and then everyone stopped talking about it. She never said anything about whether Rattler had pretended to be Jake or whether her and Dany had thought he was Jake, so don't tell me the answers are available when they aren't. But fine, ignore it and act like you gave an honest answer when you didn't. And prairiegirl, how can you tell me about wasting energy berating individuals? That's like 80% of what you and everyone else does on here. Oh Reese is so mean, so nasty, oh Jake is so pathetic, I hate them both, I really hate Reese, wish she would disappear, she's so evil and manipulative. If you think doing this is so bad why don't YOU practice what YOU preach?

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Anonymous said...

I have been visiting Steven G's blog every few days ever since someone posted a link to it. He only writes every so often, not daily. Here is what he said today "But first I must turn, bow and wave to my boy, even if he is not watching, lost for years to the high wire act far above us."

It moved me to tears. So poignant. Lost for years. Now we know why he is distanced from his family.

Anonymous said...

Dont understand why people come here and are surprised to find we think Reeke is fake, Jake is gay and we dont like Reese. I guess they are not too bright.

prairiegirl said...

You have a good point, Brains. Touche'. Sometimes I do spend too much time on here babbling on & on. Like today I should have been wrapping my presents, lol.

I never said I hate Jake, what's the matter with you. At least quote me right. Actually, I've never said I hate Reese either. I don't care for her; I don't care for the way Jake has changed since he's been with her.

Now let me ask you this. Who are you really. Obviously, you're not a regular here. I don't believe you are my friend, Popcorn, either. Popcorn was never vulgar towards me nor was he/she fond of using alot of bold type. Why don't you have a registered blogger name and where do you come from. Why are you still here. Why were you nice one minute and then you develop blograge? Are you a fan of Reese's? Are you a fan of Jake's? If you're a fan of Jake's, why haven't you visited before? Why do you have so much anger in you? Like I said, it's one thing to come on here & disagree - that's not a big deal. But you type in bold. You've got some real anger there. Did something go wrong today? Is there anything else you want to talk about that might be the underlying issue? Physical ailments going on? I have laptop elbow, an arch that has been bothering me for months now, had a shoulder strain, numerous back strains, lots of rehab therapy, MRI's, plus I have social anxiety and have to take Paxil, and the like. That can sure get me down and make me take it out on other outlets. Maybe that's going on for you.

Huh? Talk to me. Let's get down to the real issue.

Anonymous said...

It moved me to tears. So poignant. Lost for years. Now we know why he is distanced from his family.

I think you got that backwards. Stephen is the one who's distanced from the family, not Jake.

Anonymous said...

"But first I must turn, bow and wave to my boy, even if he is not watching, lost for years to the high wire act far above us."

M, thanks for posting that. It certainly sheds a lot of light on a few things I wondered about.

I don't know if Jake is distanced from his family but I always thought he was close to his mother.

prairiegirl said...

Hey m, how are ya? I hope everyone pardons my babbling today, especially my indulgence of our guests. Something's going on there; not sure what. That's an awful lot of energy spent on a website that doesn't cater to their beliefs and nothing but negative feedback. I dunno. I would've been long gone. I'm trying to imagine what it could be besides obviously some kind of insecurity.

m, I was just reading his entry on WFT2. Really interesting piece. It seemed to be getting some negative reaction over there and I'm not exactly sure why. Poetry is a form of expression, after all. Now I'm not saying anything more about it; I don't have a real opinion on his writing about his son on a public blog. But I myself did find it rather interesting.

the boy who is not watching

High wire act High wire act as in balancing & teetering on a thin rope? high above the ground in the air? what does that mean? I have my own interpretation of that and I don't think our guests would agree with or like it, I'm sure.

Lol, maybe Mr Gyllenhaal is trying to develop his own Ted-like following. PapaGspeak.

And you know, we don't have any idea what goes on in that family nor should we really. That's between them. But poetry is like songwriting. It's a form of expression and subject to interpretation. I don't think I'm condoning or commending if I read it and try to wonder what it is he's saying.


And now I'm going to bed. Like Brains said, I've expended alot of energy on here today; but not all of it negative. I believe there was some nonJake/Reese chatter on my part. Once again, obviously not a regular or they would see that there is alot of positive chatter on here. And on alot of other subjects as well.

I miss Destiny. Destiny, you must be en route somewhere; I think you said you weren't going to have computer access. Anyway, goodnight wherever you are.
And goodnight to you, m, and flf.

And a special goodnight to Special. Love ya!

Anonymous said...

But fine, ignore it and act like you gave an honest answer when you didn't.

Ah. I think I know who you are.

Anonymous said...

Tell us Brains, what is there to like about Reese?

No, Just continue to Hate, Hate, Hate Reese. (sarcasm)

Hate is NOT GOOD. I don't care who it is.
No justification of it. So many people hate gay people, now gays can dish hate on somebody they really don't know also. Is this what's happening? Please tell me.

Anonymous said...

All I did was open a bold tag. Wasn't angry, just wanted to make sure that it was clearly seen. And I wasn't quoting you, just saying what people here generally say about Reese. But you did say berating individuals was a waste of energy, so I thought it was funny seeing as you do the same thing. You say I have a good point but I don't think you will change in anyway. You'll go back to berating Reese and Jake within a day or two.But I'm really sorry to hear about all those problems you have though. Now I feel bad. If thinking and saying bad things about Jake and Reese helps you get through the day then I shouldn't tell you not to. I hope you get better and have a great christmas.

Anonymous said...

WFT2 and OMG commenters are polite enough to share their commonly held opinions with each other, but dont go trying to convince other sites who hold different beliefs that they are wrong. Of course if you posted something unpopular on babblers it would disappear. Even DC forum is fairly quick to squelch disruptive items. I guess they are here since they have nowhere else to go.

Prairie Girl, my interpretation was also that the high wire act is the balancing act/bearding he is trying to keep going to attain/maintain his A list status. Who would guess his own father would effectively out him. I wonder if his blog comment will be deleted tomorrow.

WFT2 points out that someone else was recently wearing a fedora. Could be the hat was a gift from Austin. It has the quirkiness that speaks of him.

destiny said...

Wow, what an invasion. Seems like the real questiom is why brains and others feel the need to come here and attack uis when they should be out dancing in the street over the reese and jake show. @3 mad that we're stil here? Jealous that we have a communith here? They know something is not right in paradise too?

- haven't looked at any of the pictures but for one or two, nor the video. It'll have to wait until I can get to a better internet connection. One of the downsides of being away from home.

)Es there are other media whores, but most of them are at least in real relationships. But most of them are not exactly slaying them at the box office, just the opposite. Seems to me they're desparate for attention and the money they get selling to the tabloids. Yes scs is doing ok, but it has nothing to do with Reese, it would have done just as well with someone else in it.

Anonymous said...

Dont understand why people come here and are surprised to find we think Reeke is fake, Jake is gay and we dont like Reese. I guess they are not too bright.

^ I don't happen to dislike Reese! I think she's a fine actress, but has been in some weak movies lately, just as (all) of HW stars, male and female are every so often. And everyone here knows about my take on the J/R thing, no need to repeat it. I also don't dislike her because she seems to be with the only celebrity that I have a ginuine interest in either.

M, for some reason I have thought that Jake and his dad relationship was or has been strained for some time now. There was a pap picture of Jake and his dad leaving a building in NYC during the time he used to hang out there alot (2006) and Jake looked like he and his dad had just had it out. I know every child / parent will not get along 100% of the time, but that picture said alot for me. I don't know who has distance themselves from who, but it happens to the best of families.

Anonymous said...

Destiny, I think you hit the nail on the head. Despite all the efforts OMG, WFT2 and jake is gay still survives. Every time a pic of Reeke appears, jake is gay shows up in the comments on every blog. Must be very frustrating and the cost of all this advertizing is adding up. Reeke are becoming like Heidi and Spencer. Must confess I do not know who they are, but I see pictures of them on the web all the time.

One last note to Prairie Girl before I bed down - I started reading 48 days, practically non stop, so that's why my visits are brief lately. Thanks for the recommendation. Book of Dreams will come next.

destiny said...

Hey PG, I was out or with my family a great deal of the day. Sorry I missed all the talk, if it'd been a normal Sunday I would have been watching football with my laptop nearby. It never fails, something always happens when Ikm away.

I think I know who brains might be too--a former tber would be my guess.

prairiegirl said...

Must confess I do not know who they are, but I see pictures of them on the web all the time.

lol! I don't either, m. But they're all over the rags which I gaze at while standing in line at Wally World. can't help but see them. She's on The Hills, I think? He might be, too, I'm not positive. I've never even seen that show, but when I used to peruse DListed and all those sites earlier this year all the time, they were on there all the time.

Hey Destiny, I thought you said you were traveling! Wasn't this blog day something? Brains had a point. I was expending alot of energy; most of it negative, but not all of it. I just don't understand why they come here. I really don't. There has to be a reason. No action on the blogs that they used to frequent or what?You think you recognize the person? Someone who's either got a personal vendetta or who has "crossed over". lol. I love saying crossed over; like it's a scifi movie or something. I am not in the know, don't want to be, don't need to be.

Brains, I was trying to wear you down with my endless babble of questions, lol. I was speaking the truth, though about my ailments. Comes with being a frequent walker and always overdoing on everything I get into - dumbbell weights, aerobic classes, etc. Always overdo and then overstrain. My own fault so I have no reason to complain.
And no, I don't need OMG to get through that. I've had most of these injuries long before I discovered OMG. I've not been on here all that long, only since this past spring. Developed full blown anxiety in the late spring of 2005, so see? That's not it. Thanks for the wishes for a good Christmas if you were sincere about it. I wish you the same. All in all, we are all brothers & sisters. Truly.

m, isn't it good? I wondered if you were engrossed in it, lol. Isn't she good with her characters? And the relationship between Jack and Bobby. And between Jack & Ennis. And Ennis and his girls.Wait til you read Book of Dreams. It's even better yet. I tell you, I had a blast reading them. I was obssessed, staying up late, getting up a little early, just to read.

And eastcoast, okay, you're an exception, lol. I used to be a fan of Reese's. I loved Legally Blonde, would watch it everytime it was on TBS. That's the only movie of hers I ever liked, tho. I didn't like Sweet Home Alabama or Man in the Moon (didn't like it when that boy died). But I'm not a fan of hers. I won't go into it; don't want to be negative now, lol. I'm all about positive energy now.

flick Did you feel that, ECF? that was my index finger flicking the back of your head. You just love muddying the waters, don'tcha? Sweet dreams.

Anonymous said...

J&R are simply an unconvincing couple and mushing them together for the potential commercial benefit has so far failed. The desperate level and timing of "meaningful" photo ops simply compounds this.

Numbers go up when there are pics because we like to bitch at fakery, duh.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know if he still sees Maggie, and his niece.

Anonymous said...

Curious = Brains = Popcorn = Dani

The venom for OMG, the blog's success and those that have the temerity to continue to believe in Jake and Austin after her highly theatrical on-line temper tantrum on WFT against all things Jaustin is obvious.

Can't stomach people moving beyond your sphere of influence? That your obtuse words of wisdom are no longer asked for? That you are no longer needed or wanted?

How the self appointed mighty have fallen. Almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

Anonymous said...

flick Did you feel that, ECF? that was my index finger flicking the back of your head. You just love muddying the waters, don'tcha? Sweet dreams.

PG, was that a LOVE tap or was it one of those small abusive hits with a smile that will happen when we don't see Eye to Eye? huh either way, just gotta luv ya!

Anonymous said...

^^You know they can become abusive.

LOL Still luv ya PG

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Special K said...

PG - I think you have me beat on who sleeps the least.

Everything is solid ice here this morning. Oh this is going to be fun doing the little old lady walk to the train. I should just take the fall and get it out of the way for the season.

prairiegirl said...

the little old lady walk

LOL! I know exactly what you're talking about. That is exactly what us girls in the office call it when we have to scoot on in from our cars through the trucker's lot. And we always have to do it in front of the shag/yard guy.

Yeah, I stayed up waaaaay too late last night. I'm feeling it now.

Eastcoast, I deleted my first comment so I'll tell you again, it's all in fun. I'm teasin' you. Right now, a little frustrated with you, lol, but still teasing.